tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8167606116032558518.post846853434599560951..comments2023-06-01T04:08:23.369-07:00Comments on Gemæcce: place names/etymologyNicola Griffithhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00401940329164370169noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8167606116032558518.post-42107289543901174622010-04-21T17:20:37.919-07:002010-04-21T17:20:37.919-07:00Many thanks for that. I'll add her info to my...Many thanks for that. I'll add her info to my hoard of people to pester with questions once I have a rough draft.<br /><br />Meanwhile I'll start practising my ingratiating smile...Nicola Griffithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00401940329164370169noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8167606116032558518.post-72891652923951173912010-04-21T17:01:15.343-07:002010-04-21T17:01:15.343-07:00The go-to person for Brittonic/Welsh language is H...The go-to person for Brittonic/Welsh language is Heather Rose Jones at heatherrosejones.comMorgana Krinsleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14257956164846731824noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8167606116032558518.post-90344577761669847742008-02-18T20:32:00.000-08:002008-02-18T20:32:00.000-08:00Thanks for the link. I'll go have a good scrum ab...Thanks for the link. I'll go have a good scrum about.Nicola Griffithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00401940329164370169noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8167606116032558518.post-23016920690342856242008-02-18T20:17:00.000-08:002008-02-18T20:17:00.000-08:00I think it really depends on how many Anglo-Saxons...I think it really depends on how many Anglo-Saxons or Norse were in the area. The fact that the name survived so well must mean some continuity. -ham means farmstead so it may have devolved into an estate eventually. If it was a small fortified place then Dun probably fits much better than Caer. I think I lot of Caers turned into -burghs (Bamburgh, Edinburgh). There were a lot of Roman and post-Roman forts in Northumbria, so how many other Caer-s or Dun-s survived around there? That might tell you something about replacement or translation of names in the area. Considering you know that it was transformed into a -ham I think you could use it with or without the Dun. <BR/><BR/>Here is a wikipedia site with lots of placename elements. <BR/>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_generic_forms_in_British_place_namesAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8167606116032558518.post-85598931494552536922008-02-18T17:46:00.000-08:002008-02-18T17:46:00.000-08:00Do you think a dun- or caer- placename might have ...Do you think a dun- or caer- placename might have carried over into modern-day use? We're talking about one of the more rugged areas of Cumbria, about twenty miles south of Carlisle, where Cumbric/Brittonic (are those two terms synonymous? I don't know...) might have survived into the eleventh century, and place names with it. Carlisle itself is a case in point. The Romans called it Luguvalium, something like 'the place of Lugh' and two thousand years later it's 'Carlisle' which sounds as though it got a caer- placename added to the 'Lugh' bit. I admit to being a bit lost, though, when it comes to tracing this stuff through the centuries.Nicola Griffithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00401940329164370169noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8167606116032558518.post-31170876625353574502008-02-18T17:32:00.000-08:002008-02-18T17:32:00.000-08:00Sounds reasonable... or maybe something like DunBr...Sounds reasonable... or maybe something like DunBrauc. Dun meaning fortified place like Dumbarton and Dunkeld, Dunbar etc. Either that or a Caer- placename. Depends on how large and fortified it was...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com