tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8167606116032558518.post2861950476465402710..comments2023-06-01T04:08:23.369-07:00Comments on Gemæcce: anglo-saxon in the roundNicola Griffithhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00401940329164370169noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8167606116032558518.post-65225291925567315512009-10-28T01:09:08.048-07:002009-10-28T01:09:08.048-07:00So I see that Eadbald's shillings (c. 630) are...So I see that Eadbald's shillings (c. 630) are the small ones. The setting I'm imagining at Gipswic is perhaps four years earlier than that, so I'm thinking Merovingian coins (the bigger ones).Thanks for my clarification.really i am struggled to know this things.<br /><br />Thanks for the great reading, we buy <a href="http://www.goldcoinsgain.com/gold-bullion-coins.html" rel="nofollow">gold </a> bullion in a recession. I will <br /><br />pass this on to our ira clients to readAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8167606116032558518.post-62050957333702038522008-09-04T09:52:00.000-07:002008-09-04T09:52:00.000-07:00Right, sorry! Thank you.Right, sorry! Thank you.Nicola Griffithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00401940329164370169noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8167606116032558518.post-76561637523152398002008-09-04T08:43:00.000-07:002008-09-04T08:43:00.000-07:00As linked above...<A HREF="http://www.fitzmuseum.cam.ac.uk/opac/search/cataloguedetail.html?&priref=134146" REL="nofollow">As linked above</A>...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8167606116032558518.post-25309802657701177692008-09-02T15:11:00.000-07:002008-09-02T15:11:00.000-07:00Ah. And these, too, would be small coins?Ah. And these, too, would be small coins?Nicola Griffithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00401940329164370169noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8167606116032558518.post-75785721458933908192008-09-02T05:14:00.000-07:002008-09-02T05:14:00.000-07:00And hey! Looks as if Visigothic imports are not in...And hey! Looks as if <A HREF="http://www.kentonline.co.uk/kol08/article/default.asp?article_id=46628" REL="nofollow">Visigothic imports are not in fact as implausible</A> as I might have guessed...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8167606116032558518.post-68614337602178095882008-09-01T16:15:00.000-07:002008-09-01T16:15:00.000-07:00This is enormously helpful. Thank you. I for one...This is enormously helpful. Thank you. I for one am most grateful for all that time you spend slacking...Nicola Griffithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00401940329164370169noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8167606116032558518.post-72300715337447651152008-09-01T14:27:00.000-07:002008-09-01T14:27:00.000-07:00Even the Merovingian ones not so much bigger, unle...Even <A HREF="http://www.fitzmuseum.cam.ac.uk/opac/search/cataloguedetail.html?&priref=135289" REL="nofollow">the Merovingian ones not so much bigger</A>, unless I'm making some crucial error here as that one is from <I>c. </I>650 and so still later than you mean. It's the metal content that changes in that coinage, I think, however, not the size or weight. <A HREF="http://www.fitzmuseum.cam.ac.uk/opac/search/cataloguedetail.html?&priref=134146" REL="nofollow">Visigothic ones are substantially broader but about the same weight</A>, and <A HREF="http://www.fitzmuseum.cam.ac.uk/opac/search/cataloguedetail.html?&priref=134073" REL="nofollow">the actual Roman pieces</A> they're all imitating in that general range too.<BR/><BR/>However, I think if I suggested that anyone was minting shillings before Eadbald and my boss found it it might be the only thing I could do that could cost me my job :-) Suffice to say, there is no evidence for minting gold in England before that so your characters tremisses would have to be Frankish or otherwise imported.<BR/><BR/>Hope all this is some help. I see this kind of information as some payback for the amount of work time I spend slacking on the Internet...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8167606116032558518.post-67493892213343034252008-09-01T12:20:00.000-07:002008-09-01T12:20:00.000-07:00Many thanks for those links. (And I'm so sorry Bl...Many thanks for those links. (And I'm so sorry Blogger ate your first try. One day I'll upgrade to Wordpress and put both my blogs on my actual <A HREF="http://www.nicolagriffith.com" REL="nofollow">website</A>)<BR/><BR/>So I see that Eadbald's shillings (c. 630) are the small ones. The setting I'm imagining at Gipswic is perhaps four years earlier than that, so I'm thinking Merovingian coins (the bigger ones). Do you think that's a reasonable assumption, or should I assume some A-S king was minting the small coins before Eadbald? (The pace of change in the 7th C is astonishingly difficult to keep track of for an amateur researcher like me.)Nicola Griffithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00401940329164370169noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8167606116032558518.post-57864853412789686292008-09-01T03:12:00.000-07:002008-09-01T03:12:00.000-07:00Blast it! Long comment written and Blogger seems t...Blast it! Long comment written and Blogger seems to have deleted it. So okay, let me try again.<BR/><BR/>Yes! It's our exhibition. There will some day be a virtual counterpart designed by yours truly; it was supposed to go up at the same time as the main exhibition, but the powers-that-be have not got round to vetting it so down it stays. When it does go live I shall trumpet it in <A HREF="http://tenthmedieval.wordpress.com" REL="nofollow">my blog</A>.<BR/><BR/>Secondly, a warning; if you should be tempted to buy early medieval gold, watch out for surprisingly-cheap Merovingian tremisses; there is somewhere a guy making very good fakes of them that are finding their way onto the market. So far they're all from the same dies, so easy enough to spot for the numismatist in the know, but very authentic-looking if you're not him.<BR/><BR/>Thirdly prices. Yes, eight-to-one is a fair rate for gold-to-silver in the early Middle Ages, though the Islamic crescent reckoned at<BR/>seven-to-one. They also generated the gold coins you may be thinking of, the dinars, and their Western imitations, the mancus or morabitinos, which are about 4 g; an early English shilling is much smaller, <I>c. </I>1·3 g, and you can see <A HREF="http://www.fitzmuseum.cam.ac.uk/opac/search/cataloguesummary.html?_searchstring_=AG='Coins%20and%20Medals'%20and%20material='gold*'%20and%20OB='shilling*'%20when%20OT='denomination'&_function_=xslt&_limit_=10&_resultstylesheet_=imagecs" REL="nofollow">a couple here</A>. So they're actually about the same weight as sceattas (or <A HREF="http://www.fitzmuseum.cam.ac.uk/opac/search/cataloguesummary.html?_searchstring_=AG='Coins%20and%20Medals'%20and%20OB='sceat*'%20when%20OT='denomination'&_function_=xslt&_limit_=10&_resultstylesheet_=imagecs" REL="nofollow">these ones here</A> anyway), but smaller, because gold is denser. As for what you could buy with them, well, you're in the right league; the main source is the Laws of King Ine, which are translated in Attenborough's <I>The Earliest English Laws</I> (N. B. did not check title!) and maybe also in EHD; I can get precise references if it will help. In the meantime, <A HREF="http://www.regia.org/costs.htm" REL="nofollow">this page here</A> is none too bad.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com